Here is a post I actually found by accident. The guy who runs this blog put links to both of my “Infantry Common Tasks” posts and I always check out a site or an article my links were included in before I approve it in comments. Something to pay attention to in this post relates to some things that I and some others have mentioned, regarding you and people in your group joining the National Guard. In the US, reservists are not combat arms, they are support units, and are a Federal organization designed to augment Federal military support units as an auxiliary (no commandos or Infantry in the Federal Reserves no matter what some jackass might tell you).
The National Guard, while being a State entity, can be used by the state (natural disaster response, riot control, etc.) or federalized as has been shown many times, but it is organized and funded by the State (with some Federal assistance). The National Guard has every Combat Arms MOS within it, and within those units are multiple support MOS’s at the Company level that are needed to complete the unit (medic, supply, NBC, Commo, Armorer, cooks, etc.). For example: Special Forces (18 series), Airborne, LRS, Infantry (11 series), Cav/Armor (14 and 19 series), Artillery (13 series), and Engineer (21 series) are all in the NG. This doesn’t even point out all the support MOS’s needed to round out the overall unit at the Battalion level or higher.
Do I have a problem with a guy who wants to get training from the Tactical Trainers out there? Of course not. That would be like cutting off my nose to spite my face. My issue is those who want to “play soldier” and think that “If I get enough training on the weekends, I will be a Light Infantryman.” (this is exacerbated by some trainers out there who forward this idea, simply to make money off of those types of people).
You wanna go out and do “militia” training one weekend a month? Why not get paid to do it after an initial 4 month training block (for the Infantry MOS, others are different in time required) that your employer cannot fire you for doing? That’s right, according to ESGR regs an employer cannot fire you for any time off needed to do any training or deployments while a member of any Reserve/NG component unit, and if they penalize the employee, they get hammered by the Feds. I have heard a few guys say, “But if I’m gone that long, my girlfriend/Wife won’t be around when I get back.”, and to that I say, if that’s true, you need a different Wife/girlfriend anyway.
You wanna get your group squared away? Do as SFC Barry has mentioned before and have them join the same NG unit and get Infantry (or whatever combat arms MOS is in that state), supply, commo, NBC and medical training, then be able to train together once a month while getting paid to do it. Hell, you wanna “Play Commando”, the 19th and 20th NG Special Forces have units all over the country in 15 different states.
Think about this. You get your group in the same Combat Arms unit and train once a month on those tasks with the unit, then you guys train once a month on your own Survivalist skillsets you want to become proficient in. How squared away would that group be? By the way, can you think of a better place to recruit group members (after a watch and listen period) than in a Combat Arms NG unit? Also, you would have the opportunity to go to whatever Army schools are available to the Combat Arms MOS that you fall under such as Mountain Warfare, Air Assault, Airborne, Pathfinder, Army Combatives (multi-tier hand to hand courses) and the NCO academies, just to name a few. These are schools you can’t even get in the civilian world, let alone what they would cost you if you could, and you’d have to do it on YOUR time off from work.
Here’s one of the problems I see groups like militias having with going down this path. Those guys would actually have to start at the bottom and earn their way up, and they’d have to listen instead of talk. No “Insta-Kernals”. No, “Well it says here in the Ranger Handbook….” from those who have never used it in a real training context. No more, “Well the Youtube video shows…..” and the video is from an equally unskilled or less than knowledgeable “militia ranger”.
Joining a NG Combat Arms unit would be real world immersion training that can be dangerous, and you would have to actually commit to a period of time that you would be on the line (weren’t some militias actually at some protest/riots, and now they’re askin’ for money to support them going to more? They’d have gotten paid to be there if deployed with the NG, but the kicker is they wouldn’t have been callin’ the shots), and you might actually be called to do your Combat Arms job for real, and most aren’t willing to do that unless it’s convenient, and combat never is.
You guys want to be a Constitutional Militia, but then say, “I don’t like the current Governor (or President), so I wouldn’t follow their commands.”. Then you try to impress everyone by sayin’ “We were workin’ with law enforcement.” (wonder where their orders came from?), or “We tried to work with law enforcement, but they turned us down.”. You’d better re-read what the militia acts originally espoused, because if you say you’re “Constitutional Militia”, then by God, be “CONSTITUTIONAL MILITIA”! This is one of the reasons I recommend you DON’T call yourself “militia”, Constitutional or otherwise. For example, if you are following the rules as a “Constitutional Militia” in PA, you don’t have the option of tellin’ that socialist Governor Tom Wolf to shove it up his ass, do you?
This post isn’t a “You need to join the NG or you are nothing but a POS.” post. It is about presenting some options that came to mind because of the post I reposted here. Do you need to join the NG to be a well rounded Survivalist? No. Are you a hypocrite if you are a member of your local militia that claims Constitutional authority, but are not/never were willing to join the NG if physically able? Yes.
For most of the militia members that I have seen that have no former mil service, or are not prior Combat Arms service members, they want to do the cool “Combat Arms” stuff (look at me, I’m an “operator” even though I never was when I was in the mil), without the “baggage” of the commitment or the threat of actually having to do it real world. Most don’t start at the bottom (does a militia unit actually even have “Privates”?), and they usually get to have an immediate say in what’s going on (they don’t have to listen without being heard like an enlisted soldier would), which is a scary prospect in and of itself.
By the way, pay close attention in this article to the info about the British Soldiers that got hemmed up over their extra curricular activities.