While conversing with a friend this evening, I brought up the topic of why were all the people picked up at the Fed Traffic Stop/Shooting put in the same vehicle for initial transport, and that it violated normal LEO protocol. I also mentioned to my friend that I thought it was done on purpose. “Why on purpose?”, was his inquiry. If I recall correctly, I said “They (REFUGEes) were dumb enough to say stupid things in front of Santilli’s camera, maybe the Feds recorded their conversation in the van to build a better info/intel picture of them after that stressful situation. They were THE leadership, right?”.
I also mentioned that between the videos of Shawna Cox and Mark McConnell, there was some obvious arguments that went on, both between Payne and Finicum before he took off, and between Cox and McConnell (among others) in the van. I mentioned that if the Feds knew what direction they were going to go with their story/account of Finicum’s killing/murder when they retold it, it would give them a leg up, info wise, and might have been the reason they were so willing to put out that video so soon.
My Buddy advised me that I should write this up, and I mentioned something to the effect of “And have the blogosphere question my analyst credentials. (P.S. I was a grunt, not an analyst)” Oh, the horror! Cluephone for the ignorant. I don’t give two Damns what you think of this assessment. It is based on my training and experience, and understanding of certain SOP’s, and considering some of the “assessments” you guys are giving credibility to, I could say it was aliens that did it, and probably be closer to the truth.
On the same video I heard Cox say that McConnell was the “Rat/Snitch/Fed”, and was feeding the Feds/OSP info about their trip plans. From what I gather, her reasoning is due to his recent arrival, the fact he was not arrested, and because he “talked” them out of taking more people (that’s a leadership/security failure, if it even happened, and wasn’t that Payne’s area?). I think she might want to be careful slinging the “Rat/Fed” word around, especially since one of the primary “Co-conspirators” (Blaine Cooper) left without incident AFTER the shooting happened and has yet to be arrested as of this time (as far as I know).
Another point was Ryan Payne getting out of Finicum’s truck at the initial stop (after supposedly being shot at, right? Why would he do that?), before it went into the ambush that was waiting for them (was that convenient?). I would also like to point out that like McConnell, Victoria was not arrested (Is she a “Rat/Fed”?), and Shawna herself was released (on bail I’m guessing, probably because I think she is the only Oregon resident of the group)
Am I pointing fingers? Nope. Enough of that is being done by the inner circle and the ANALysts watching the video on their phone and making their “initial ‘God given’ opinion/assessments” because people want to know what they think the “facts” are (Facts? OK, sure they are). You guys (REFUGEes) were your own worst info/intel nightmare, and you handed them OpSec Info wrapped with a bow through Santilli and whatever other medium you ran your mouths on.
Maybe another blogger is right. Obviously it wasn’t a tactical operation, simply because if it was (with their watch tower, LPOP’s, guard shifts, and Multicam adorned monkeys), it was the most inept “Tactical” enterprise of all time. You want to know what I think happened? I don’t know what the Hell happened, and I’m not foolish enough to say what I believe happened till we have more info (like audio) that is processed into intel. Be careful following the assessment of anyone who is attacking the assessments of others (unless it’s an outright lie as I mentioned in this post
). With what we have available (in reality, not much…yet), information wise, those attacks on other assessments are probably only being done to be the “I said it first” guys.
American by BIRTH, Infidel by CHOICE