This is from a mutual acquaintance concerning his thoughts on some ad hominem comments towards SFC Steve Barry in the Jade Helm post at WRSA here. If you truly knew Steve, you would realize that these type of attacks really do nothing but prove the points he is making, concerning the ability, true motivation, and survivability of a percentage of the readers here, and every time you attack him instead of his premise, you prove 1) You do not understand the premise, 2) You must reply because your emotions have the better of you, and 3) You are so close-minded, that it has shut down your ability to better yourself through the realization that there are some glaring issues you need to, but are not willing to bring up, let alone address. The author of this comment has some info for you who commented on that post (you know who you are). Heed it, don’t heed it, I don’t care, Steve doesn’t care, Frank doesn’t care, but quit acting like a bunch of effeminate “hard asses”, since they are mutually exclusive descriptions.
July 20, 2015
By Frank Pinelander
The noise from this party is what drew me to it.
I find the vast majority of the comments
sad. What is rightfully given the label of patriot nonsense,
lumped in with militia drivel from decades past. Has anyone thought about that? DECADES PAST, of the SAME stories? How it didn’t happen then? And yet, here we are, seeing the same thing over and over.
There’s the same tired accusations by the same shrill voices, only this time they have the power of a free distribution system for their meanderings, as opposed to actually having to go out and make something from nothing, at great personal, emotional and financial expense. But then, how many of the shrill voices here are getting paid? It’s been proven time and time again, that there are trolls that only engage in ad hominem posts because that is their job. Those that do so of their own accord; well, their lack of social and verbal skills, not to mention lack of a grasp of history and things military, speak for the validity of their screeds.
I’ve known Steve since the early days. I’m familiar with what he went through to do something to change the direction the country was going in. Things that will not, indeed, probably cannot, and surely should not, be made public. I will tell you this, it was brilliant. But then, if anyone bothered to get to know the man, his history and knowledge base, they wouldn’t even bother posting the things they do.
Starting from the top of the comments, responding in the order that they pop up:
You “dangerous revolutionaries” have nothing to fear from government. The fear you have, is all on you. If you’d bother to actually delve into things, you’d find out from a large number of OSINT (Democracy in action – the Bolsheviks got laws passed in the 60s, forcing the government to give access to the files that were being kept on the Bolsheviks. Now we can, and at least some do, take advantage of those rules) that they really think the IIIper/Prepper/Patriot movement is a joke. Oh, but their minions at the SPLC and media just love to make you bask in your own self importance, by labeling you a threat in the media. Doesn’t anyone else here understand how propaganda works?
Getting locals acclimated to military movements in the US. Has anyone, ANYONE, bothered to do the math? Does anyone here understand logistics? We have again, OSINT and recent events in the Sandbox, that tell us what kind of resources are necessary to pull that off. THEY DON’T EXIST. DoD doctrine on the matter on dealing with any potential large scale problems in any major metropolitan area is to cordon it off and let it burn. The same thing they’ve been doing since the 60s. Let’s assume that FEDGOV was going to try a gun confiscation somewhere. How long do you think they could keep a lid on that? Then, there’d be a hornets’ nest in the rest of the US for them. It’d be game on. They know that, why can’t you figure it out? Or did anyone remember how things were spinning up regarding the Connecticut assault weapons ban? Or how they did spin up regarding Bundy Ranch?
Mr. Barry’s “type”. You obviously, know nothing. If you don’t care what he says, then why bother responding? While you stand on the edge, looking at stars, those that are enslaving this nation, and indeed the world, are undermining the cliff face.
Ahhh, goat herders kicking ass without external nation state support. Been there? Know anyone that was? Chasing Taliban? Finding caches of NEW CHICOM weapons and ammunition? Intel provided by China, in the form of satellite imagery? Oh, you didn’t read that in the “news”? Gee, go figure. Study the proxy wars fought between the US and the USSR.
As for not winning a war in the last 80 years, blame civilian leadership, not the military.
The military did not make anyone see a US soldier as a UN soldier, that falls upon the fear mongers for several decades. If one bothers to look at history, this same militia talk has been going on since FDR and all of his doings. If you really want to know where the military stands on things, do some research on Combat Arms Survey question 46. That questionnaire went out rather widely. The intervening years showed us that those in the military that actually had the capabilities to do that, not only wouldn’t, but would indeed take up arms WITH The People. If anyone really believes the government stopping the things it was doing, had anything to do with Monica Lewinsky’s laundry habits, they not only weren’t paying attention then, but didn’t bother to follow up later.
Fat ass? Really? Beltway? Hardly to both. You’d never know it if you encountered him, but then that’s the way it’s supposed to be. Don’t get within reach. And for those that’ll pound their chest to that about long range – well, that’s his hunting ground, I wouldn’t recommend it. Not that you’d ever do it. Pounding on your keyboard and sitting at a concrete bench with known distances is all you know. Bet you’ve got an app for it, too.
.mil agent foaming agitprop. Either you understand the definition, then go into ad hominem engaging in said, or, you breathe through your mouth. Either way, doesn’t matter.
I have to laugh, at someone telling SMB he doesn’t know anything about guerrilla warfare. Sadly, that’ll have to remain personal.
Jade Helm as practice for a domestic future. True, to an extent. If anyone, again, bothered to dig into it, Mastering the Human Domain was the working title. What is that? HUMINT. For the military, on its face as it’s been playing out. All one had to do, was look at the role players that were hired to participate:
CIA agent – previous experience, CIA agent
Ambassador – previous experience, Ambassador
Intel officer – previous experience, Intel officer
Etc., etc., etc.
I can guarantee you, that the NSA got all kinds of valuable practice, with all the message traffic on this, that they can refine their algorithms, rather nicely at that.
Plugging the Mexican border, requires more than a passing familiarity with geopolitical imperatives and the nation-state dynamics that revolve around them. Bottom line, not going to happen. Certain nations would collapse, as would most of the inner cities in the US.
Yes, the Patriot Movement went sour. It started out on the right foot, for the right reasons, then after awhile, especially when FEDGOV started backing off, it turned in on itself. Sadly, were starting to see similar in this current rendition of it.
Hopeful that SF and Rangers could be persuaded to “lead the way.” They were, then George Bush got elected. As an SF friend, ready to do so relayed to me: You can only fall on your sword once, so you better pick that cause carefully.
The remainder, seems to either be addressed by others, or not worth being addressed.
Flame away, I doubt I’ll come back to see you consumed by your own fires.
When things fall apart and you are searching for the “why” of your failures, you will have no one to blame but yourselves. You had “Help” from a variety of sources, but only chose to listen to those who didn’t aggravate your delicate sensitivities and pre-conceived notions concerning what was to come.
American by BIRTH, Infidel by CHOICE